When Peace Replaces the Prince of Peace: A Review

The sermon uses Philippians 4 as a pretext to introduce the non-biblical framework of 'holy indifference' derived from Ignatian mysticism and secular psychology. The authority of Scripture is functionally diluted by being placed alongside secular authors and political activists. The Gospel is entirely absent, replaced by a therapeutic system aimed at producing a 'non-anxious presence.' Sin is redefined in exclusively social and political terms, and Christ is presented as a moral example for managing anxiety, not as the substitutionary atonement for sin. This represents a fundamental replacement of the Christian faith with a syncretistic, works-based therapeutic religion.

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Theological Status: Critical Concern Biblical Parallel(Archetype): Pergamum
❓ What do these grades mean?
🔍 Biblical Discernment: The 7 Church Parallels
The Faithful Parallels Smyrna • Philadelphia
Teaching that parallels the churches that endure suffering with true spiritual riches (Rev 2:9) and keep the Word of Christ without denial despite having "little strength" (Rev 3:8).
The Cold Orthodox Parallel Ephesus
Teaching that upholds doctrinal precision yet parallels the loss of the "first love"—the vital, motivating power of the Gospel (Rev 2:4).
The Formalist Parallels Sardis • Laodicea
Teaching that parallels churches relying on a reputation of being alive while being spiritually dead (Rev 3:1), or resting in lukewarm self-sufficiency, claiming to be "rich" while spiritually bankrupt (Rev 3:17).
The Compromised Parallels Pergamum • Thyatira
Teaching that parallels churches tolerating the "doctrine of Balaam" through cultural accommodation (Rev 2:14), or allowing seductive teachings that lead the flock into false gospels and immorality (Rev 2:20).
Why strictly "Mark & Avoid"?
We do not issue this rating to attack the speaker, but to protect the listener. This church's overall teaching trend consistently deviates from sound doctrine. As per Romans 16:17, we identify these patterns so believers can guard their hearts.
Date: 2026-02-08 | Church: Hamline Church UMC | Speaker: Mariah Tollgaard

📺 Media: Watch Sermon on YouTube

🧐 Overview

Sermon Summary: In a world filled with anxiety, many seek peace. This sermon attempts to offer a solution through a practice called 'holy indifference,' but in doing so, it shifts the focus of Christianity from salvation from sin to a technique for emotional management. It presents a version of faith where Jesus is a model for coping rather than the Savior of our souls, and where the church's primary mission becomes political action instead of proclaiming the Gospel.

Big Idea: Embrace holy indifference by trusting God and releasing control, allowing us to love and serve others without being consumed by anxiety. [00:31:07 ▶️ 📄]

Pastoral Analysis: The sermon uses Philippians 4 as a pretext to introduce the non-biblical framework of 'holy indifference' derived from Ignatian mysticism and secular psychology. The authority of Scripture is functionally diluted by being placed alongside secular authors and political activists. The Gospel is entirely absent, replaced by a therapeutic system aimed at producing a 'non-anxious presence.' Sin is redefined in exclusively social and political terms, and Christ is presented as a moral example for managing anxiety, not as the substitutionary atonement for sin. This represents a fundamental replacement of the Christian faith with a syncretistic, works-based therapeutic religion.

Biblical Parallel(Archetype): Pergamum — The sermon blends biblical language with fatal secular ideologies (therapeutic psychology, political activism), compromising the Gospel's core message of salvation from sin through Christ alone.

🧭 Biblical Alignment Dashboard

Overall Verdict: Fundamentally in Error

CategoryStatusReasoning
Soteriology ❌ FAIL The doctrine of salvation is completely absent. The sermon replaces the Gospel of grace through faith in Christ with a system of human effort (practicing 'holy indifference') aimed at achieving a therapeutic outcome (peace, non-anxiety) and a political goal (social justice). Jesus is a model, not a Savior.
Bibliology ❌ FAIL The authority and sufficiency of Scripture are undermined by placing it on equal footing with extra-biblical mystical traditions ('Ignatian tradition'), secular authors ('Kate Bowler'), and political movements ('indigenous wisdom keepers'). The Bible is used as a resource to support a pre-existing ideology rather than as the source of truth.
Hermeneutic ❌ FAIL The hermeneutic is pretextual. A non-biblical concept ('holy indifference') is the central theme, and Philippians 4 is used as a proof-text to support it. The sermon's structure and content are dictated by the external framework, not by an exegesis of the biblical text.
Theology Proper ⚠️ WEAK God is reduced to a cosmic therapist whose primary function is to help humans manage anxiety and achieve 'spiritual wellness for our nervous systems.' His attributes of holiness, justice, wrath against sin, and sovereignty in salvation are entirely missing, resulting in a distorted, utilitarian view of God.
Sacramentology ⚪ N/A Neither Communion nor Baptism were observed in the provided transcript.

📖 How they Handle Scripture & Jesus

Primary Text: Philippians 4:4-9 (Pretextual)

Scripture Saturation: Verses Read: 6 | Referenced: 1 | Alluded: 2

Passages Read Aloud:

  • Philippians 4:4-9 [00:30:01 ▶️ 📄]
    "Rejoice in the Lord always. Again, I will say, rejoice. Let your gentleness be known to everyone. The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Jesus Christ. Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things. As for the things that you have learned and received and heard and noticed in me, do them, And the God of peace will be with you."
  • Philippians 4:5 [00:49:17 ▶️ 📄]
    "Let your gentleness be known to everyone. The Lord is near."
  • Philippians 4:4 [00:52:51 ▶️ 📄]
    "Rejoice in the Lord always. Again I will say, Rejoice!"

Key References: Philippians 4:4-9

Christological Connection: Thematic: Jesus is presented thematically as a moral example of someone who practiced 'holy indifference' in the face of suffering, rather than as the central figure of redemption who is the substance of the text.

🧱 Sermon Outline

  • Introduction [00:31:20 ▶️ 📄] : The pastor introduces the problem of modern anxiety and proposes that simply 'not caring' is not a viable option for faithful people.
  • Point 1: Defining 'Holy Indifference' [00:32:28 ▶️ 📄] : The central concept of 'holy indifference' is defined using the Ignatian tradition, framing it as detachment from outcomes to be more available for love.
  • Point 2: Application to Social & Political Anxiety [00:37:06 ▶️ 📄] : The concept is applied to contemporary political issues, framing social activism and resistance as a form of 'holy indifference'.
  • Conclusion: A Call to Practice [00:50:53 ▶️ 📄] : The congregation is invited to engage in a physical exercise to practice releasing control and is encouraged to see Jesus as the ultimate model of this practice.

🗝️ Key Topics & Themes

  • Trusting God and Community Support [00:15:00 ▶️ 📄] : The pastor demonstrates the ease of carrying burdens when shared with others or with God.
  • Holy Indifference [00:32:28 ▶️ 📄] : The pastor discusses the concept of holy indifference as a way to be free from anxiety and fear.
  • Holy Indifference [00:34:43 ▶️ 📄] : The concept of caring deeply while letting go of control.
  • Anxiety and Nervous Systems [00:35:05 ▶️ 📄] : Addressing the constant alertness and anxiety in modern times.
  • Paul's Advice on Not Worrying [00:35:47 ▶️ 📄] : Paul's encouragement to not worry about anything, emphasizing the importance of prayer and thanksgiving.

✅ Commendations

Pastoral Sensitivity | Addresses a Felt Need

The sermon rightly identifies that anxiety is a significant and painful issue for many people in the congregation and attempts to provide a tangible solution.

Homiletics | Clear and Articulate Delivery

The speaker's delivery is calm, well-paced, and easy to follow, creating a gentle and inviting atmosphere.

⚠️ Theological Concerns

🔴 Replacement of the Gospel with Therapeutic Deism

Root Cause: Therapeutic Deism: This reduces God to a divine therapist or life-coach whose primary purpose is to help people feel better, manage their anxiety, and live successful lives. It shifts the focus from God's glory and eternal salvation to human-centered goals of happiness and well-being.

"so therefore holy indifference is a form of spiritual wellness for our nervous systems" [00:39:23 ▶️ 📄]

Correction: The Bible teaches that true, lasting peace is not the result of a human technique but a gift that comes from being declared righteous before God through faith in Jesus Christ's death and resurrection. This peace 'surpasses all understanding' precisely because it is based on Christ's finished work for us, not our emotional state or ability to detach from outcomes (Romans 5:1, Philippians 4:7).

🔴 Redefinition of Sin (Social Gospel)

Root Cause: Social Gospel: A theological movement that views the primary mission of the church as the transformation of societal structures rather than the conversion of individual souls. It tends to redefine sin in collective, systemic terms and salvation as liberation from social, economic, and political oppression.

"We name that as sin." [00:44:45 ▶️ 📄]

Correction: The Bible defines sin first and foremost as a transgression against God's holy law and a state of rebellion against Him (Romans 3:23, 1 John 3:4). While this sin has devastating social consequences like racism and injustice, these are the symptoms, not the disease itself. The only remedy for sin, in both its root and its symptoms, is the atoning blood of Jesus Christ.

🟠 Syncretism / Subordination of Scripture

Root Cause: Syncretism: The blending of different, often contradictory, beliefs and practices. In a theological context, it involves mixing Christian doctrine with elements from other religions, philosophies, or cultural traditions, which compromises the purity and exclusivity of the Gospel message.

"The Ignatian tradition puts a name and shape to this inner stance." [00:33:48 ▶️ 📄]

Correction: The Bible claims to be the inspired, inerrant, and sufficient Word of God, the sole infallible rule for faith and life (2 Timothy 3:16-17). While wisdom can be found in other sources, they must always be judged by Scripture, not placed alongside it as an equal authority. The Christian life is to be built on the foundation of God's Word, not on human traditions or secular philosophies.

📜 Full Sermon Transcript (Audit)

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[00:00:01] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_07]
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[00:00:21] Oh, that's what you said. Yes, ma'am.
[00:00:27] Okay, that's great.
[00:00:55] Well, that's nice to see and see.

[00:01:04] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_07]
[00:01:04] Life is short.
[00:01:27] I'm sorry.
[00:01:33] So then anybody else can do it.
[00:01:41] So some other children can do it.
[00:01:43] Of course, this person I'm married to decided, oh, this is what everyone is supposed to do.
[00:01:47] He said, I am not going to do this.
[00:01:49] Well, I am not going to do this.
[00:01:52] So I said, well, please be disciplined.

[00:01:54] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[00:01:54] Good morning, friends. Welcome to Hamlin Church. I'm Mariah Tolgaard, one of the pastors here, and I am so glad that you are here this morning. Special welcome to those of you who are joining us online. Good morning. We hope you are warm and cozy wherever you are. And a very special
[00:07:06] welcome to anyone who is new or worshiping with us for the first time. We are so glad that you are here, and we hope that our worship today warms your heart and helps inspire you for the week
[00:07:17] ahead. We are continuing this week in our Holy Calm in an Anxious World series, and I have lots of wonderful music lined up for today. Our bells are ringing and band and choir, of course, and we
[00:07:31] also have some special things happening for kids that you'll hear about a little later on. I hope when you came in, you were able to grab an order of worship. If you're watching online, you can
[00:07:40] click the link and follow along there. That shows you what will be happening throughout the service today and also has a lot of information about things going on in the week ahead and things going on right after church today, because there is a lot happening just after worship as well.
[00:07:56] And we also want to invite everybody to take just a minute. On the front cover, there's a QR code or a link online. Scan that QR code and fill out the connection card, and that lets us know that you're
[00:08:08] here. It's a great place to share any prayer requests that you may have or to sign up for more information about Hamlin Church. So thank you in advance for taking time to do that. So friends,
[00:08:21] amidst the heaviness and chaos of this world, we gather in this place for renewing our spirits, our bodies our minds our souls and open our hearts to an experience of God's love and grace please stand as you are able to join us for the opening prayer

[00:08:44] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_01]
[00:08:44] let us pray holy one you know how tightly we cling to outcomes plans and control loosen our grip so that our hearts may rest in you teach us a holy indifference not apathy but a deep trust that calms our anxious minds and frees
[00:09:10] us to love with courage make us as individuals and as a church a non

[00:09:17] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_07]
[00:09:17] anxious presence in an anxious world amen the peace of Christ be with you

[00:12:56] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_04]
[00:12:56] please take a moment to share a sign of peace with those gathered around you and in our comments section online as we're saying peace all the little ones can come up and join

[00:13:45] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_02]
[00:13:45] me come on up hi wow cool shoes oh my gosh i wish i'd light up shoes all right everyone come on up here i'll make some space here good morning hi hello hello all right thank you everyone
[00:14:04] oh my goodness what a great group we have today okay everyone can come on up and take a seat hi Okay, so I'm going to get started while people find their way up.
[00:14:16] Good morning.
[00:14:17] I'm Tova, the Director of Student Ministries, and I'm so happy to be here with you all today.
[00:14:22] Just to remind everyone, there are worship materials over here in the corner and a sensory safe space in the chapel.
[00:14:28] Also, we have childcare for five and under in the Frolic Room, which is just down the hall over here.
[00:14:33] And today we will be going to Sacred Studio after this.
[00:14:37] So, pre-K will be in godly play in room 10, and first through second will be in room 7, and third will be in the parlor.
[00:14:50] Fourth and fifth grade will stay until the sermon and then head down to join everyone.
[00:14:54] So we will only be in separate groups today, though.
[00:14:58] This is important pick-up information.
[00:15:00] We will be in separate groups for only a bit today, and then we are going to go to the community room just downstairs to do art projects for the art art fair coming up which is super
[00:15:11] exciting um so parents please make sure to pick up your child from the community room um and then an announcement the ukulele group will now be meeting uh in room 10. yeah the fourth and fifth graders will actually be going straight to the art so that that is pretty
[00:15:31] exciting that'll be really fun yeah so incentive to go sit in the fourth and fifth grade area and go down and do some art with us yeah so let's get started today so i don't know if anybody noticed
[00:15:42] what i have with me did anyone notice yeah yeah i have this big bag so i was wondering if anybody would be willing to try to pick it up yeah how about you right here so let's stand right up here
[00:15:54] and then you stand up and then i'm gonna put it right here now try to pick it up okay so now you're holding it how does it feel to carry that heavy right yeah so sometimes we carry worries
[00:16:10] around with us especially ones we can't fix so maybe like getting picked for a team or what others think about us or about things happening in the world that are outside of our control that
[00:16:19] weigh on our minds so let's choose one other person to help out yeah yeah come on up okay so i'm gonna ask you to take the other strap so what each one of you will carry a strap of the bag
[00:16:32] Okay. Is that a little easier to hold? Yeah, absolutely. Right? So now that you're carrying it, it's a lot lighter. So when we are carrying worries on our own, they're a little harder to lift, right? But when we're carrying them with our community or when we're sharing them with God,
[00:16:50] they become a lot lighter and easier to carry. Thank you guys so much. You can put that down here. I'll take that. It's all my textbooks. We can do that a little later. I can show you guys
[00:17:04] afterwards. My textbooks, yeah. So when we trust God to help us carry some of our worries, things feel a lot less scary, a lot less heavy, you know? They weigh on us a lot less. So our bag of concerns
[00:17:19] gets a lot lighter when we share them with God and each other. So yeah, thank you guys so much for helping out with that little demonstration. We're going to do a really quick prayer, and then
[00:17:29] we're going to head off to Sacred Studio, because we have a lot of exciting things to go over today.
[00:17:34] So, repeat after me, please. God, these worries of ours are also yours. Help me to trust you. Amen.
[00:17:53] Thank you, everyone. You're really good listeners today. All right, please join me in Sacred Studio, and parents, please remember to pick up your child from the community room downstairs. Thank you.

[00:18:01] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_05]
[00:18:01] Please join me in our centering song, 2057.

[00:18:35] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:18:35] This season of February, the sermon series, we are learning some embodied practices.
[00:20:12] This one is called Oneing with God.
[00:20:15] It's just a simple movement with silence that we will have.
[00:20:20] So there's just four. You see them in your bulletin.
[00:20:23] When we begin, we will have a wait, which we await.
[00:20:28] if you would just do this with me. Put your hands at your hips, arms open, while you're sitting. You don't have to stand. And then we'll have a moment of silence. We await for God's presence, and then
[00:20:40] we will allow God's presence. We'll reach up as high as we can, palms open, trying to feel the Spirit. And then we will accept what comes with our hands over our hearts, and then we will attend
[00:20:58] to what is. So friends, I invite you to settle your body, to take some deep breaths, and let us await God. Let us allow God to speak to us. Let us accept your hands back to your belly
[00:23:47] or into your lap. Friends, we remember that Jesus was embodied and had a body just as us, knows what we are feeling, knows our aches and pains and our existential crises. So let us now join in prayer with the Lord's Prayer, each using the
[00:24:19] translation most meaningful for you. Our God, who art in heaven, hallowed be thy name. Thy kingdom come, thy will be done, on earth as it is in heaven. Give us this day our daily bread and forgive us our trespasses as we forgive those who trespass against us and
[00:24:43] lead us not into temptation but deliver us from ego for thine is the kingdom and the power and

[00:24:52] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_01]
[00:24:52] the glory forever and ever today's scripture reading comes from philippians rejoice in the Lord always. Again, I will say, rejoice. Let your gentleness be known to everyone.
[00:30:01] The Lord is near. Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything, by prayer and supplication, with thanksgiving, let your requests be made known to God. And the peace of God, which surpasses all understanding, will guard your hearts and your minds in Jesus Christ.
[00:30:21] Finally, brothers and sisters, whatever is true, whatever is honorable, whatever is just, whatever is pure, whatever is pleasing, whatever is commendable, if there is any excellence and if there is anything worthy of praise, think about these things.
[00:30:44] As for the things that you have learned and received and heard and noticed in me, do them, And the God of peace will be with you.
[00:30:56] The word of God for the people of God.
[00:30:59] Thanks be to God.

[00:31:07] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[00:31:07] Thank you, Ben.
[00:31:09] Thank you, Bells.
[00:31:10] And thank you for our prayers and Ta-Zay music.
[00:31:13] It already just kind of has brought our anxiety down a little bit, right, just to kind of settle in to this space.
[00:31:20] Friends, I wonder if perhaps in a world like ours, flooded with alerts, crises, and demands, friends, have you ever thought it would be nice to just not care? To just kind of let it all
[00:31:41] roll over you and not worry about any of it? Anybody ever thought that might just be an option?
[00:31:49] It does sound tempting. It sounds like a form of self-protection. But I know you all and I know that that option is not possible, or you wouldn't even be here today. You are deeply caring and
[00:32:06] faithful and considerate people, but there has to be some other way than living in the heightened state of anxiety and chronic tension that seems to flood our world. And fortunately, the Christian tradition offers something far more beautiful and fulfilling than numbness.
[00:32:28] A practice called holy indifference.
[00:32:34] Holy indifference is the freedom to be so released from control, from clinging and fear, that our hearts are actually more available to love fully, wisely, and generously.
[00:32:52] This is the kind of freedom that we glimpse in Philippians 4 when Paul writes from prison under Roman imperial power.
[00:33:01] He says, Rejoice in the Lord always.
[00:33:04] Do not be anxious about anything, but in everything by prayer and supplication with thanksgiving.
[00:33:11] Let your requests be made known to God.
[00:33:15] He does not say, Rejoice because it's all fine.
[00:33:20] He rejoices because God is near.
[00:33:24] And that nearness changes how he meets whatever comes.
[00:33:32] As a follower of Christ, Paul has discovered a way of being deeply human, honest about suffering, committed to others, without being consumed by anxiety.
[00:33:48] The Ignatian tradition puts a name and shape to this inner stance.
[00:33:57] St. Ignatius of Loyola, in his writing Spiritual Exercises, taught that real freedom is not getting our way, but being so rooted in God's love that we can hold everything else—health or sickness, success or failure, security or risk—with open hands.
[00:34:25] Ignatian indifference is not apathy, but it is the grace to release all that does not help us love God and neighbor and to give ourselves wholeheartedly to whatever does.
[00:34:43] So we might say that Paul was modeling this holy indifference, the paradox of caring deeply and yet letting go.
[00:34:52] The times we live in keep us on edge, with our nervous systems on constant alert.
[00:35:05] And here in Minnesota, that anxiety isn't just on the screens, it's on our streets, as we worship under the ongoing shadow of a federal occupation of our city.
[00:35:18] Even with a bit of reprieve this week, over 2,000 federal agents remain in our communities, and our neighbors are texting before they leave home, deciding which route feels safest if they leave home at all.
[00:35:36] The ache is not abstract.
[00:35:40] So when we hear Paul say, do not worry about anything, we have to be honest.
[00:35:47] It can sound impossible, maybe even heartless, but keep in mind, Paul is not writing a postcard from a tropical beach, right?
[00:36:04] Paul is writing himself from prison.
[00:36:09] And he is writing to a small, early fledgling Christian community living under Roman military control, where for them saying Jesus is Lord, quietly challenged Caesar is Lord, which was the predominant view of those in that their community. And that faithfulness
[00:36:33] made daily life risky. So Paul knows what it is to be watched, threatened, and powerless over outcomes. Like Jesus's words, do not worry. Paul's words are not meant to shame our anxiety, but to show us a different way to carry it.
[00:37:06] Holy indifference in our context cannot mean shrugging at deportations, raids, or racialized targeting.
[00:37:13] It cannot mean numbing ourselves to our neighbors' fears.
[00:37:17] It cannot mean standing by as racism persists in this country.
[00:37:22] holy indifference means that the administration or ice or DHS does not get to be Lord of our nervous systems they do not get to have the final say over our hope our solidarity our imagination we stay tender we stay brave
[00:37:48] we keep showing up here in Philippians Paul offers a simple embodied path toward this kind of peace one that speaks not only to our souls but also to our bodies rejoice let your gentleness be known to everyone the Lord is near do not be
[00:38:13] anxious about anything but in everything by prayer and with Thanksgiving let your requests be made known to God, and the peace of God will guard your hearts and minds in Christ Jesus. Notice here how the movement unfolds. First, rejoice. Rejoice. Find a reason to delight in what
[00:38:37] is good, even if life is hard. Second, gentleness. Soften your posture towards others and toward yourself third prayer and gratitude practice releasing control through words and Thanksgiving and fourth peace that guards the promise is not control but
[00:39:08] presence that studies reorienting our nervous systems through prayer gentleness rejoicing and Thanksgiving gives our bodies some place to turn besides panic or numbness so therefore holy indifference is a form of spiritual wellness for our nervous systems it is not refusing to feel it is learning how to hand each spike of
[00:39:42] fear each wave of dread back into God's hands so that fear is not the only voice shaping us ignatius would say that indifference is the inner freedom that lets us ask does this help me praise
[00:40:00] revere and serve god by loving my neighbor or does it only feed my fear or my ego when we have even a little of that freedom we can be engaged without being enmeshed connected without being consumed
[00:40:23] Writer Kate Bowler uses a phrase that fits our moment.
[00:40:26] She speaks of living with the ache.
[00:40:32] She describes the persistent ache that we carry, the ongoing drip of bad news, the layered losses, the everyday worries for our loved ones, the ache of wanting to fix everything and discovering we can't.
[00:40:54] Bowler says that blessings sometimes come disguised as our limitations, our inability to make life behave.
[00:41:08] When we finally admit that we cannot save everyone, cannot stop every harm, cannot guarantee safety for those we love, something in us loosens.
[00:41:22] We are no longer gods who have failed.
[00:41:26] we are humans who can be tender to me that sounds a lot like holy indifference when we release the illusion of control we discover we are held in something larger grace the ache may not go away but it can be companioned with peace holy indifference doesn't say
[00:41:55] this doesn't matter it says this matters so much that I refuse to carry it alone like the kids with the heavy bag right here in this church if you feel right now overwhelmed or exhausted or on edge friends you are not failing at faith you
[00:42:26] are paying attention holy indifferent asks can i hand this moment this terror this uncertainty back into god's hands so that i can keep loving keep protecting keep organizing keep showing up for my neighbor keep loving my family without burning up we have to keep in mind
[00:42:55] that we are not the first community to be asked to live this kind of holy indifference in the face of cruelty and fear.
[00:43:07] For this has been the lived experience of black and brown people in this country that was founded on stolen land and stolen labor.
[00:43:17] This has been the daily spiritual work of black people from slavery to Jim Crow to now, while holding on to their God-given identity.
[00:43:29] Enslaved people, freedom fighters, parents, and children learn to survive and resist without letting the slaveholder or the lynch mob or the sheriff tell them who they were.
[00:43:42] That is holy indifference.
[00:43:45] They did not stop caring.
[00:43:47] They refused to let white supremacy own their souls.
[00:43:51] And again, in the civil rights movement, that same holy indifference became a fierce, disciplined, non-anxious, non-violent presence in the face of fire hoses, jail cells, bombs, and daily humiliation.
[00:44:09] Through prayer and song and nonviolence and organizing and marching, they rejected the lie that hatred had the final word.
[00:44:21] We need that courage now.
[00:44:24] And even the highest leader of this land perpetuates racist tropes again and again and again this week, casually circulating racist memes that demean black people and mock the first African American president and first lady of this country.
[00:44:45] We name that as sin.
[00:44:49] And yet, in Christ, we are called not to numbness or despair, but to a deeper rooting in love and truth.
[00:45:05] Holy Indifference says we will not give up, we will not give in, and we will not stand by.
[00:45:11] Together, we are responsible for saying no to the lies of this administration and yes to the truth of our neighbors.
[00:45:24] We must stand for the God-given worth of all people in this world, keeping the faith and keeping our eyes on the prize, as the late Senator John Lewis urged, not just for ourselves but for one another.
[00:45:47] Just yesterday, many Hamlin Church folks were present for another example of holy indifference at the Whipple Building, where Indigenous leaders gathered and invited others to stand with them, to declare that no one is illegal on stolen land.
[00:46:07] Yesterday, people of many faiths came to pray, honor, and defend the humanity of all people, particularly of those who are currently detained.
[00:46:24] We hoped and prayed that through our songs, our dancing, our marching, our prayer ribbons, that perhaps that message of solidarity could get to those who were locked inside.
[00:46:36] And together we told the truth about this land, about its theft by the federal government, about the harm perpetuated in that very same space when it served as a concentration camp for Dakota people in the winter of 1863,
[00:46:56] ongoing harm done in the name of law and order that continues today.
[00:47:05] And there we listened as indigenous wisdom keepers called us back to a different way of walking on this earth.
[00:47:15] One prayer shared from the journals of great grandmother Mary Lyon said, listen.
[00:47:22] Listen to your breath.
[00:47:26] sort through what is important, and heed the warnings.
[00:47:33] We must continuously be reminded that hurt people hurt people, and we must bring prayer of goodwill to them so our spirits will not be broken.
[00:47:48] We must not mirror our behaviors to be liked.
[00:47:52] Hold your spiritual space.
[00:47:55] lead with love courage bravery truth wisdom and most importantly love in a world of rage and retaliation that is holy indifference refusing to mirror the violence of those who harm refusing to let hate colonize our spirits and choosing instead to stand in truth to protect the vulnerable
[00:48:27] to lead with love. Friends, when even just a few people practice holy indifference, the whole community begins to shift. Instead of escalating conflict, there is space for listening. Instead of clinging to control, there is room for trust. And
[00:48:58] And instead of pretending that everything's fine, there is courage to be real.
[00:49:06] This is what Paul envisioned when he told the Philippians, Let your gentleness be known to everyone. The Lord is near.
[00:49:17] Gentleness here does not mean weakness.
[00:49:19] It means steadiness of soul, a calm that blesses others.
[00:49:27] Churches that cultivate this kind of gentleness become safe spaces where people can exhale, cry, be angry, and still know that they are held.
[00:49:40] Where living with the ache is not something that you do alone, but something we carry together.
[00:49:48] Imagine if our congregation were known in the city for being a place where people whose bodies have been on high alert could rest for an hour.
[00:50:02] A place where our neighbors can bring their aches, the bad news, the layered losses, their day-to-day worries and concerns, and find that they are not too much and that they are not alone.
[00:50:19] A place where a non-anxious presence is itself a form of resistance.
[00:50:28] You do not own our joy.
[00:50:30] You do not own our hope. You do not own our love for one another. Learning holy indifference takes practice. It takes not a one-time enlightenment, but a daily rhythm of release. So I want to
[00:50:53] invite you to try something simple with me now. If it's comfortable for you, place your hands in your lap. Hold them there for a moment and notice if they are clenched. Picture what you are carrying
[00:51:14] today. The news, the occupation, the people you love, the things you cannot fix. Hold them and now gently open your hands. Feel what it is like in your body to loosen your grip. This is the posture
[00:51:43] of holy indifference, not dropping what matters, but holding it in God's presence instead of clutching it alone. We might start the day with a prayer as our hands open. God, I release what I cannot control, and I receive your peace. When anxiety surges again a couple hours or minutes
[00:52:12] even later we open our hands again over time those small releases retrain the heart open hands cannot grip as tightly to fear open hands are freer to receive grace to share what we have to live with the ache without being swallowed by it
[00:52:40] The final word in Paul's teaching is not detachment, but joy.
[00:52:51] Rejoice in the Lord always.
[00:52:54] Joy is the fruit of holy indifference.
[00:52:58] Because once we stop trying to control everything, we make room for gratitude.
[00:53:05] Paul urges us to dwell on whatever is true, honorable, just, pure, pleasing, commendable.
[00:53:15] Anxiety loops on what might be going wrong.
[00:53:18] Peace attends to what is good and life-giving.
[00:53:23] Focusing our minds in this way does not erase the circumstances around us, but it keeps those circumstances from stealing our souls.
[00:53:34] And for us, as followers of Jesus, holy indifference is not an abstract ideal.
[00:53:44] It is a way of clinging to Christ himself, the one who knew the ache of this world, who trusted God in the face of betrayal, violence, and death, and yet kept loving.
[00:54:02] As the choir prepares to sing, Give Me Jesus, we are invited to make that our prayer.
[00:54:11] Not give me control, not give me guarantees, but give me Jesus.
[00:54:16] the presence the courage and the peace that meets us right in the ache and will

[00:54:25] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_07]
[00:54:25] not let us go thanks be to God amen we wanted to hold the power and beauty of

[00:59:07] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[00:59:07] that moment but it was just simply too good to not show our appreciation as well Thank You choir friends we come to the time in our service where we think about how it is we will respond to God's grace in our lives, how it is that we will, yes, hold our
[00:59:28] holy indifference to keep our hearts and minds well, but also open our hands to love and serve God. And there are many ways that we do that together at Hamlin Church, many ways we serve
[00:59:41] together in community. One of those ways we also do this work is through the sharing of our financial resources. And so you are invited to give to today's offering as you are able. There are four
[00:59:54] ways to give. You can give online at hamlinchurch.org slash give by sending a check in the mail, by text, or in the offering boxes on your way out the door. And your support and generosity
[01:00:05] helps fuel our collective ministry in this community and beyond. So thank you for your support. Other ways that we live into our faith are through our work together as the Hamlin Church, and there are a number of listings in the bulletin and in our weekly email about all the things
[01:00:24] going on. I just want to point out a couple that are especially important. Today we have a really special opportunity right after worship to head down to the parlor for our Opposing Antisemitism seminar. And we are very fortunate to welcome Dr. Ray Himelin and Daniel Lentz of Jewish Voices
[01:00:46] for Peace, who will present on how to stand against anti-Semitism in our world. And there'll be a question and answer session. There is lunch. There is child care available. Even if you didn't RSVP, there is room for you. Please join us for this very important conversation. The parlor is
[01:01:04] downstairs in the lower level of the education wing down the hall that way. So thank you for your presence. Also want to note in February, we've had this fun tradition of having a community art
[01:01:16] show. And so now is the time that we are making art together and collecting art. So putting a call out for artists and makers of all sorts to contribute to this time. We also invite you to
[01:01:28] make art with us right after worship down in the community room. We'll have some space to work on art together, to create a project of your own or work perhaps with somebody else and contribute to one of our group projects.
[01:01:40] And we'll also hold that space on Wednesday evening connected to Wednesday night dinners as well.
[01:01:46] So hopefully that you can join us for that and save the date for the art show on February 21st.
[01:01:53] Next week, lastly, next week is Transfiguration Sunday, the last Sunday before Lent.
[01:01:59] Lent begins with Ash Wednesday, of course, But it is also Mardi Gras Pancake Breakfast Sunday.
[01:02:07] So hope you will be here for that, come for worship, and then stay afterwards for our pancake breakfast.
[01:02:15] And it's the freewill contributions that help our youth trips this summer.
[01:02:20] We have two trips going, one to South Dakota and one to the Global Young People's Convocation in Dublin, Ireland.
[01:02:28] So you can find out more about that next week and have some delicious pancakes before we enter the season of Lent.
[01:02:36] We have a really fun and important song to end with.
[01:02:39] David, you wanna?
[01:02:41] Sure, yeah.
[01:02:41] Bring it on.

[01:02:43] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_04]
[01:02:43] I think it's a great way to send us out with the peace we have felt in worship today and how we can carry that energy and then share it out into the world.
[01:02:52] It's one that I feel like I need to teach you.
[01:02:55] So as you're standing up, I'm gonna just do a little call and response.
[01:02:58] So stand as you're able.
[01:02:59] We're gonna really need to get our whole bodies involved in getting this one out and it goes like this so i'll sing it through one time by myself and

[01:03:07] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[01:03:07] then i want to do a little call and response with you okay be the change you want to see in the world be the change you want to see in the world be the change you want to see in the world and
[01:03:30] change will come to you. So not a lot of words and the melody just kind of builds

[01:03:38] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_04]
[01:03:38] on itself. Let's do a little call-and-response and see if we can do it

[01:03:40] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[01:03:40] together. Repeat after me. Be the change you want to see in the world. Try that. Be Be the change you want to see in the world, Be the change you want to see in the world,
[01:04:14] Be the change in the world, and change will come to you.

[01:04:32] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_04]
[01:04:32] Good job, everybody.
[01:04:33] We've got a lot of times to get through this, so sing along as you're able.
[01:04:36] Here we go.

[01:04:42] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_05]
[01:04:42] The change in the world.
[01:04:47] And thank you, everybody.

[01:06:29] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[01:06:29] Thank you for your presence here today.
[01:06:31] It matters.
[01:06:32] We are so glad that you worshiped with us this day.
[01:06:35] Just a reminder to, if you have kids here today, you can pick them up downstairs in the community room where they're doing art, and you can join them to make some art. Huge thank you
[01:06:45] to all of our musicians, to all of our worship volunteers, and our coffee hour team. Please join us now downstairs for a time of coffee and refreshments. Go from this place rooted in holy indifference, knowing that it doesn't mean giving up or giving in, but that it means we are holding
[01:07:07] on to christ who journeys with us to do love to show mercy to work for justice and peace go from this place knowing that christ goes with you go in peace to love and serve our god thanks be to god amen