The Danger of Misunderstanding Divine Discipline

While the sermon attempts to encourage spiritual maturity through the lens of discipline, it suffers from severe theological errors. It promotes a Prosperity Gospel framework, suggests God's power is dependent on human effort, and issues spiritually abusive condemnations. The core Gospel message is compromised by moralism and doctrinal deviation.

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Theological Status: ACTIVE HERESY Biblical Parallel(Archetype): Thyatira
❓ What do these grades mean?
🔍 Biblical Discernment: The 7 Church Parallels
The Faithful Parallels Smyrna • Philadelphia
Teaching that parallels the churches that endure suffering with true spiritual riches (Rev 2:9) and keep the Word of Christ without denial despite having "little strength" (Rev 3:8).
The Cold Orthodox Parallel Ephesus
Teaching that upholds doctrinal precision yet parallels the loss of the "first love"—the vital, motivating power of the Gospel (Rev 2:4).
The Compromised Parallel Pergamum
Teaching that parallels churches tolerating the "doctrine of Balaam" through cultural accommodation (Rev 2:14), characterized by weak boundaries, sloppy theology, and worldly compromise.
The Corrupted & Dead Parallels Thyatira • Sardis • Laodicea
Teaching that parallels churches with active heresy, synergism, therapeutic deism, or dead orthodoxy (Rev 2:20, Rev 3:1, Rev 3:17). These represent systemic, fundamental errors that corrupt the Gospel.
Why strictly "Mark & Avoid"?
We do not issue this rating to attack the speaker, but to protect the listener. This ministry's overall teaching trend consistently deviates from sound doctrine. As per Romans 16:17, we identify these patterns so believers can guard their hearts.

🧐 Overview

Theological Verdict & Summary

Sermon Summary: A critical examination of a sermon on divine discipline that, while well-intentioned, fundamentally misrepresents the nature of God's power and the purpose of Christ's atonement.

Pastoral Analysis: While the sermon attempts to encourage spiritual maturity through the lens of discipline, it suffers from severe theological errors. It promotes a Prosperity Gospel framework, suggests God's power is dependent on human effort, and issues spiritually abusive condemnations. The core Gospel message is compromised by moralism and doctrinal deviation.

Biblical Parallel (Archetype): Thyatira — The sermon exhibits active heresy through the explicit teaching of Prosperity Gospel and the reduction of the Atonement to material abundance. Furthermore, it employs analogical heresy by portraying God's power as a passive force requiring human activation, and issues fatalistic spiritual abuse. These deviations represent a fundamental departure from orthodox biblical theology.

Big Idea: God's discipline is not punitive but developmental, designed to build the spiritual character and mental toughness necessary for believers to trust His word over their circumstances and ultimately possess His promises. [00:35:07 ▶️ 📄]


📖 How they Handle Scripture & Jesus

  • Primary Text: Deuteronomy 8:5
  • Usage Classification: Topical
  • Text-to-Talk Ratio: Low
  • Pulpit Decorum: ❌ FAIL - The use of coarse language ('spanked our tail') and the issuance of fatalistic, abusive condemnations to the congregation severely violate pulpit decorum and pastoral care standards.

✝️ Christological Focus: Moralistic/Imitative

"Christ is presented primarily as the guarantor of material blessings and a model for endurance, rather than the Savior whose atonement secures justification and sanctification."

Scripture Saturation: Verses Read: 3 | Referenced: 8 | Alluded: 3

📖 View 3 Passages Read Aloud
  • Deuteronomy 8:5 [00:14:31 ▶️ 📄]
    "think about it just as a parent disciplines a child the Lord your God discipline you for your own good"
  • Hebrews 12:11 [00:15:44 ▶️ 📄]
    "no discipline is enjoyable while it is happening you hear me now God enjoys it it is painful but after but afterwards there will be a peaceful harvest help me somebody literally say harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way"
  • Deuteronomy 8:1 [00:41:40 ▶️ 📄]
    "Be careful to obey all the commands I am giving you today. This is the NILT. Okay. Then you will live and multiply and will enter and occupy the land the Lord swore to your ancestors."

Key References: Deuteronomy 8:5, Hebrews 12:11, Deuteronomy 8:1, Exodus 14 (Red Sea), Numbers 13-14 (Spies/Giants), Judges 7 (Gideon), Deuteronomy 8:3 (Man does not live by bread alone), Philippians 3:12 (Paul taking hold)

💧 Liturgy & Sacraments

Altar Call / Invitation Observed: Yes

  • Theological Conditions: Receive Jesus as your Lord and your Savior, Christ wants to come in every heart and every mind
  • Sinner's Prayer: "Invitation is extended to receive Jesus as your Lord and your Savior. Christ wants to come in every heart and every mind." 01:09:30 ▶️ 📄
  • Coercive Pressure: "How many of y'all know you already be with Jesus right now. As you're acting that way. I'm through, really, huh? How many of y'all know that? Can we tell the truth, y'all, huh? You already be with the Lord. You already be with your maker. You don't have to wait till Jesus come back. You already gone." [01:08:39 ▶️ 📄]

🎙️ Sermon Content & Delivery

Word Count: 5,354 words

📌 View 15 Key Topics Addressed
  • Divine Discipline and Wilderness Experience [00:07:33 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor introduces the theme 'a wilderness experience' and defines the 'scepter' (discipline) as being 'designed for our delight,' contrasting it with worldly methods of acquisition.
  • Scriptural Foundation of Discipline [00:14:21 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor reads Deuteronomy 8:5 and Hebrews 12:11 to establish that while discipline is painful in the moment, it yields a 'peaceful harvest of righteousness' for those trained by it.
  • Repetition in Learning [00:35:39 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor uses an analogy of education (learning ABCs before multiplication) to explain why he repeats the theme of wilderness experience, noting that humans retain only about 10% of what they hear.
  • Repetition and Learning [00:35:39 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor explains that repetition is necessary for learning, citing that it takes seven times to grasp something and that people only retain 10% of what they hear, necessitating the teaching of basics before advanced concepts.
  • Divine Discipline [00:36:47 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor reframes discipline from a negative concept to a positive one, arguing that just as parents discipline children for their good, God disciplines believers to develop their character and prepare them for future blessings.
  • Head Faith vs. Heart Faith [00:43:19 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor distinguishes between intellectual knowledge ('head faith') and trusting God in difficult circumstances ('heart faith'), using the Israelites' failure to enter the Promised Land despite witnessing miracles as an example of lacking heart faith.
  • Obedience vs. Understanding [00:48:21 ▶️ 📄]
    > Using the analogy of military boot camp, the pastor argues that believers must obey God's commands even when they don't understand the immediate necessity, as obedience prevents chaos and builds trust.
  • Obedience vs. Intellect [00:48:38 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor argues that while thinking is necessary, believers often get in trouble when they prioritize their own reasoning over obedient action, using the analogy of making a bed correctly to illustrate following instructions.
  • Divine Discipline and Character Development [00:56:54 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor explains that God uses difficult situations and 'boot camp' experiences to build character and mental toughness, ensuring believers are prepared to handle greater responsibilities without pride or failure.
  • Church Hurt and Imperfection [01:00:28 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor addresses the reality of 'church hurt,' arguing that since everyone brings imperfection to the church, members must tolerate each other's messes and bad days rather than expecting perfection.
  • Pride and Self-Reliance [00:55:30 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor warns against the pride of thinking one's own hands produced wealth or success, citing Gideon and the Israelites as examples where God reduced numbers to ensure glory went to Him alone.
  • Spiritual Discipline and Character Development [01:03:30 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor argues that church life is a 'boot camp' designed to build the mental toughness and character required to obey God and do what is right.
  • Divine Discipline vs. Human Attitude [01:04:49 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor distinguishes God's discipline from human retaliation, using an anecdote about refusing to help someone who previously refused a favor, warning that such attitudes cause believers to miss out on blessings.
  • Parenting and Work Ethic [01:07:13 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor critiques modern parenting for failing to teach children that they must work for what they want, using a story of a woman who rejected a car her mother bought her to illustrate entitlement.
  • Channeling Power [01:06:44 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor uses analogies of steam turning a turbine and Niagara Falls generating light to explain that spiritual power and life are only productive when disciplined and channeled.
🖼️ View 14 Illustrations & Stories
  • Sermon Illustration [00:34:23 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor shares a personal anecdote about his daughter being a co-owner of a funeral home. He describes visiting the renovated, high-tech mortuary and stating that despite its quality, he would 'rather be in the house of the Lord than the finest mortuary in the world' or a 'gold casket.'
  • Sermon Illustration [00:39:13 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor shares a personal anecdote about a woman in a grocery store ignoring her child's temper tantrum to illustrate that anger does not require a response, paralleling how pastors should not be bothered by congregants' anger.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:39:41 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor recounts the Peanuts cartoon story where Lucy breaks Linus's piano, but Linus simply retrieves another one and continues playing, illustrating how to let others be mad without reacting.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:40:29 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor uses the military boot camp analogy to explain that God takes believers through difficult 'training' (wilderness/discipline) to develop character traits they do not yet possess, preparing them for the 'war' of life.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:49:54 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor references the movie 'A Few Good Men' and the court-martial scene to illustrate the concept of placing one's life in another's hands, arguing that disobedience in small matters (like making a bed) can lead to catastrophic failure in larger missions.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:49:54 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor references the movie 'A Few Good Men,' specifically the scene where Colonel Jessup asks his son if he has ever placed his life in another man's hands, using it to illustrate the danger of disobedience in a unit.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:51:04 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor recounts the biblical story of the Israelites refusing to enter the Promised Land due to fear of giants, resulting in 40 years of wandering in the wilderness, while only Joshua and Caleb entered due to their faith.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:53:18 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor retells the story of Gideon from Judges 7, where God reduced Gideon's army from 32,000 to 300 soldiers so that Israel would not claim credit for the victory, illustrating that God's power is not based on human numbers.
  • Sermon Illustration [00:57:53 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor shares an anecdote about Jim Bakker, noting that when his ministry grew too large, he became so busy with operations that he forgot the spiritual disciplines that originally brought him success.
  • Sermon Illustration [01:01:15 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor tells a story about a mother convincing her son to go to church by giving him three reasons: he is tired, he promised the Lord, and he is the pastor's son, highlighting the expectation of commitment despite personal feelings.
  • Sermon Illustration [01:02:26 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor uses a humorous analogy about coming home with a bad attitude and snapping at a dog that is trying to greet you, illustrating how people often project their stress onto others in the church.
  • Sermon Illustration [01:07:45 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor shares a personal anecdote about a woman who refused a car her mother bought her because it wasn't the specific model (Mercedes) she wanted, illustrating entitlement and the failure to appreciate gifts.
  • Sermon Illustration [01:07:59 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor recalls his childhood, noting that he and his siblings had only one bicycle to share among five children, contrasting this with the modern expectation of immediate gratification.
  • Sermon Illustration [01:06:44 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor uses the analogy of steam needing to be funneled to turn a turbine for electrical power, and water needing to be channeled to generate light, to illustrate that spiritual life requires discipline to be productive.
🚀 View 2 Calls to Action
  • Pastoral Charge [00:54:46 ▶️ 📄]
    > The pastor invites the congregation to rely on God's hand for survival and success, implicitly calling them to do the same.
  • Pastoral Charge [01:09:30 ▶️ 📄]
    > Receive Jesus as Lord and Savior

🧭 Biblical Alignment Dashboard

Overall Verdict: Fundamentally in Error

CategoryStatusReasoning
Gospel Presentation ❌ FAIL The Gospel Engine is not intact. The sermon relies on moralistic behavioral commands without anchoring them in Gospel grace. The Safe Harbor mechanism failed, indicating a total omission of the Holy Spirit's role and the sufficiency of Christ's work as the foundation for sanctification.
Soteriology ❌ FAIL The sermon conflates justification with material prosperity and physical healing, teaching that Jesus died specifically to guarantee earthly abundance, which contradicts the biblical doctrine of salvation from sin.
Bibliology ✅ PASS While the application of scripture is flawed, the underlying texts referenced (Hebrews 12, Judges 7) are standard biblical narratives, though interpreted through a heterodox lens.
Hermeneutic ❌ FAIL The hermeneutic is mechanistic and moralistic, reading Old Testament narratives and general providence as guarantees of physical health and wealth, ignoring the New Testament reality of suffering and the already/not-yet tension of the Kingdom.
Theology Proper ❌ FAIL The sermon presents a defective view of God's sovereignty, portraying Him as a passive force that requires human discipline to 'activate' His power, effectively inverting the relationship between Divine Grace and human agency.
Sacramentology ✅ PASS No specific sacramental errors were detected in the provided reports.
Confessional Depth ❌ SHALLOW The teaching lacks depth in grace, focusing instead on surface-level moral behavior and material outcomes.

⚙️ The Core Gospel Framework

What is this? This section checks if the sermon contains the essential building blocks of the Gospel. We look for explicit, substantive mentions of God's holy standard, human inability, and Christ's finished work on the cross.

Why it matters for the final verdict: A complete Gospel framework protects a sermon from becoming man-centered. If a preacher gives commands for good behavior but leaves out the grace and atonement of the Gospel, it often results in a 🔴 Critical or 🟠 Major error for Moralism (teaching human self-improvement rather than reliance on Christ). However, if these Gospel elements are missing simply because the pastor is preaching a highly focused, practical message to mature believers (e.g., instructions on biblical marriage), our system applies a "Safe Harbor" pardon, graciously reducing the omission to a 🟡 Minor error.

The Law And Wrath: Not observed in the sermon.

Total Depravity And Inability: Not observed in the sermon.

Active Obedience Of Christ: Not observed in the sermon.

The Cross And Atonement:

"Because you said it was at the cross where we first saw the light." [00:18:44 ▶️ 📄]

⚠️ Theological Concerns

🔴 Critical Prosperity Gospel / Faith-Healing Heresy

Root Cause: Prosperity Gospel / Faith-Healing Heresy

"God want us to be blessed. God want us to be healed and delivered. God want the church to have an abundance. He want that. jesus died for it that's his will that's his intent" [01:04:01 ▶️ 📄]

The Belief/Behavior: The speaker erroneously equates the primary intent of Christ's atonement with the guarantee of material abundance and physical healing in this life.

Why It's Dangerous: This reduces the cross to a transactional mechanism for earthly prosperity, leading believers to doubt God's love when they suffer or lack wealth.

Biblical Correction: 2 Corinthians 12:7-9 "And lest I should be exalted above measure through the abundance of the revelations, there was given to me a thorn in the flesh, the messenger of Satan to buffet me, lest I should be exalted above measure. For this thing I besought the Lord thrice, that it might depart from me. And he said unto me, My grace is sufficient for thee: for my strength is made perfect in weakness."

🔴 Critical Analogical Heresy (Keswick/Higher Life Theology)

Root Cause: Analogical Heresy (Keswick/Higher Life Theology)

"no steam can turn a turbine, that's how you get electrical power, unless it is funneled. It has to be captured and directed at a certain place. It just can't roam freely. no Niagara can turn water into light unless it is channeled and then it says no life is productive unless it is disciplined" [01:06:44 ▶️ 📄]

The Belief/Behavior: The speaker employs a mechanistic analogy that portrays God's sovereign power as passive and dependent on human discipline to be activated, thereby inverting the orthodox relationship where divine grace secures human activity.

Why It's Dangerous: This teaches that God is an impersonal force waiting for human effort to 'turn on' His power, undermining the sovereignty and initiative of God in salvation and sanctification.

Biblical Correction: Philippians 2:13 "For it is God which worketh in you both to will and to do of his good pleasure."

🔴 Critical Fatalistic Condemnation / Coercive Evangelism

Root Cause: Fatalistic Condemnation / Coercive Evangelism

"How many of y'all know you already be with Jesus right now. As you're acting that way. I'm through, really, huh? How many of y'all know that? Can we tell the truth, y'all, huh? You already be with the Lord. You already be with your maker. You don't have to wait till Jesus come back. You already gone." [01:08:39 ▶️ 📄]

The Belief/Behavior: The pastor issues a fatalistic condemnation to living attendees, declaring them spiritually dead and already with the Lord solely based on their current emotional state or behavior.

Why It's Dangerous: This constitutes severe spiritual abuse, causing unnecessary fear and confusion among believers who are not physically dead, and misrepresenting the biblical doctrine of the intermediate state.

Biblical Correction: 2 Corinthians 5:7 "For we walk by faith, not by sight."

🟠 Major Homiletical Imbalance (Moralism)

Root Cause: Homiletical Imbalance (Moralism)

The Belief/Behavior: The sermon relies entirely on behavioral commands, moralistic advice regarding discipline and character development, and fails to explicitly mention the Holy Spirit or Gospel grace as the foundation for the message.

Why It's Dangerous: This leads to a works-based approach to sanctification, where believers try to achieve spiritual maturity through their own willpower rather than relying on the Holy Spirit.

Biblical Correction: Ephesians 2:8-9 "For by grace are ye saved through faith; and that not of yourselves: it is the gift of God: Not of works, lest any man should boast."

🟠 Major Therapeutic Reduction of Divine Discipline

Root Cause: Therapeutic Reduction of Divine Discipline

"God's discipline is designed for our delight and character development, not merely punishment for sin." [00:36:47 ▶️ 📄]

The Belief/Behavior: The speaker reduces divine discipline to a therapeutic tool for personal delight and character building, neglecting the orthodox Reformed emphasis that God's primary end in all providential dealings is His own glory and the sanctification of His people.

Why It's Dangerous: This shifts the focus from God's glory and holiness to human comfort and self-improvement, creating a self-centered view of suffering.

Biblical Correction: Romans 8:28-29 "And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren."

✅ Commendations

Illustration | Effective Use of Analogies

The pastor effectively uses relatable analogies, such as military boot camp and the movie 'A Few Good Men,' to illustrate the concept of obedience and the consequences of small disobediences.

Application | Practical Discipline

The emphasis on the necessity of spiritual discipline and the rejection of entitlement provides practical, actionable advice for personal character development.


📜 Full Sermon Transcript (Audit)

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[00:00:00] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[00:00:00] God is saying the same thing to us over and over and over again. Stop worrying. I got you. You missed it. You missed it, church. Honestly. I got you.

[00:07:00] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:07:00] Let me ask one question before I do the call to worship. How many of us woke ourselves up this morning? I want to see some hands. So none of us woke ourselves up, right?
[00:07:15] So God woke us up, but why do we think he woke us up?
[00:07:20] So we have a hard time?
[00:07:22] Know that he might bless us.
[00:07:27] Now, sometimes we have to take us through some hard times.
[00:07:31] So I'm going to give you the septic right now before we know.
[00:07:33] The theme is a wilderness experience, and the septic is a discipline designed for our delight.

[00:07:42] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[00:07:42] I feel like taking off and preaching right now.

[00:07:50] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:07:50] but the kitchen committee is not ready so so y'all blame the kitchen committee you didn't get out early all right well they can serve until you're wrong all right okay oh come let us worship
[00:08:06] the lord and let us bow down before god our creator for we are his people and the sheep of his pasture that i know what let me say that again for we are his people and the sheep of his pasture
[00:08:20] that's what we just finished saying a sheep when they got a good shepherd they have zero worries why? because they know their safety and their provision is 100% in the hands of the shepherd so they don't even
[00:08:39] worry about anything they don't even watch where they're going they don't even look for the predators out there why? because they know that the shepherd is going to protect them oh we will realize how much God protects us
[00:08:55] alright that's enough of that amen invocation gracious God our Father we come now asking that you will come and make your abode with us in terms of your Shekinah glory we recognize your omnipresence but we ask that you will reveal yourself
[00:09:11] or manifest yourself in terms of your Shekinah glory in our hearts and our minds and even physically in this place so we can be We're sure that you're with us.
[00:09:21] So be with us now.
[00:09:23] Come Holy Spirit, come heavenly dove, fall afresh on all of us, even right now, in the mighty, marvelous, and majestic name of Jesus, who is the Christ.
[00:09:32] Amen.

[00:09:34] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:09:34] And our hymn is, I'm sorry, I'm waiting on you.
[00:09:40] My hope is built on nothing less than Jesus' blood and righteousness.
[00:09:45] Amen.
[00:09:46] All righty.
[00:13:57] Powerful, one of the powerful hymns in the church.
[00:14:00] and you get to read Hebrew the sixth chapter to grasp what he's saying about my ankle holes within the veil.
[00:14:10] Amen.

[00:14:12] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:14:12] Scripture lesson this morning is still from the book of Deuteronomy, but today I just want to talk about verse 5.
[00:14:21] And so Deuteronomy the eighth chapter, verse 5, and then Hebrew the twelfth chapter and verse 11, but they're similar scriptures.
[00:14:29] We're really the same scripture in essence.
[00:14:31] so reading from the new living translation it says think about it just as a parent disciplines a child the Lord your God discipline you for

[00:14:51] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:14:51] your own good say that again I'm going to say it later

[00:15:01] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:15:01] I'm going to say it now so he can give us or so we can take possession of what he has promised that's the only way to get it now I hear you hear me say a lot I'm not
[00:15:16] trying to knock anybody theology in church but we hear a lot of stuff about how to get it the Bible is clear how we're going to get it huh now we can use the world system and curses and stuff come with that
[00:15:30] but God's way you're only going to get it God's way everybody get it he had no pain or suffering with it all right let's read on so now Hebrews the 12th yeah the 12th chapter and you have to read the whole
[00:15:44] thing to get the context of it hopefully we'll say a little bit about it later but he wrote the 11th chapter verse I'm sorry the 12th chapter verse 11 no discipline is enjoyable while it is happening
[00:15:58] you hear me now God enjoys it it is painful but after but afterwards there will be a peaceful harvest help me somebody literally say harvest of right living for those who are trained in this way. Word of God
[00:16:36] for the people of God. Thanks be unto God. Again, the scepter is going to be disciplined, designed for our delight. Amen?

[00:16:54] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:16:54] Amen. I'm going to ask somebody else to pray, if you don't mind this morning, for Rwanda.

[00:17:11] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:17:11] Amen. She looks like she's ready to pray.
[00:17:16] Amen.
[00:17:17] If not, I'll find out when I get home.
[00:17:20] That's a joke, y'all.
[00:17:24] But good to see you, Mama. Amen.
[00:17:27] Amen. We just want to make sure you're good.

[00:17:31] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:17:31] Amen.
[00:17:32] It is good to be able to come to the throne of grace.
[00:17:38] Pastor wants to send me down here by myself.
[00:17:41] So I'm going to ask prayer warriors to come on down here with me and let us go to God and pray.
[00:17:47] Amen.
[00:17:48] Let us come to the altar.
[00:18:03] And he's going to play on the keyboard, You Gave Me the Strength.
[00:18:11] After we get through, Brother Stacy is going to lead it and we're going on back to our seat.
[00:18:17] Amen.
[00:18:18] Let us pray.
[00:18:19] Eternal God, our Father, it's once more and again that we, your children, have assembled at the cross.
[00:18:44] Because you said it was at the cross where we first saw the light.
[00:18:56] And so, God, we come at the cross this morning, bringing all of our cares to the cross so that we can leave them right here with you.
[00:19:08] Oh, God, we thank you for allowing us to slumber and sleep all night long.
[00:19:18] And then right early this morning, you touched us with a finger of love.
[00:19:23] And we say thank you.

[00:19:25] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:19:25] Thank you, Lord.

[00:19:27] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:19:27] Oh, God, you allowed us to be able to get out of bed.
[00:19:31] We were able to put on our own clothes.
[00:19:35] We were able to eat our own food that you had provided for us.

[00:19:41] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:19:41] Yes, thank you, Lord.

[00:19:42] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:19:42] And we say thank you.
[00:19:44] We thank you, O God, for the shelter we were able to sleep under last night.
[00:19:49] There are so many who are there without home or shelter, sleeping on the bridges, in tents.
[00:19:58] But, O God, you gave us shelter.
[00:20:00] And we say thank you for that.

[00:20:03] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:20:03] Yes, yes, yes.

[00:20:04] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:20:04] Allowed us to get in our cars and drive safely with no hurt, harm, or danger.
[00:20:12] To your house of prayer one more time.
[00:20:15] And we say thank you.
[00:20:18] Oh God, we was able to walk into Sears Creek.
[00:20:20] Nobody had to carry us.
[00:20:23] Nobody had to help us.
[00:20:25] We were able to walk by the power that you've given to us.
[00:20:30] And we say thank you.

[00:20:31] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:20:31] Thank you, Lord.

[00:20:32] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:20:32] we thank you oh god for those who have assembled here with us today we ask oh god that you be with us as we go forth in this service oh god we ask that your holy spirit will come in and move from

[00:20:47] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_12]
[00:20:47] heart to heart and from breath to breath as never before let your holy power abide here with us and oh god we'll be forever giving you we thank you for those that are sick those who are in the

[00:21:10] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_13]
[00:21:10] hospitals those who in nursing homes we thank you oh god for those you've healed my lord mr kelly oh god that you brought her back to us and we thank you for that oh god you didn't have through
[00:21:28] with her yet and you sent on back to seals creek and we say thank you oh god we thank you Oh, God, continue to give us a heart, that our heart will be like yours, so that we will love one another, so that when one of us are in pain, all of us, then, oh, God, not only us, but bless all of our graduates, the children who are graduating high school.
[00:22:01] Oh, God, bless them as they go off to college.
[00:22:04] Be their hedge of protection around them.
[00:22:07] Keep them from all hurt, harm, and danger.
[00:22:09] And now, oh, God, not only the children, but bless their parents.

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[00:22:13] Help them.

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[00:22:14] Now, God, we thank you for the man of God that you placed here in our midst.
[00:22:31] We thank you, oh, God, for the word that he's going to deliver to us this morning.
[00:22:35] We know that he's already prepared, oh, God.
[00:22:37] Help him to deliver what you've given him.
[00:22:40] Help him to deliver as never before.
[00:22:43] Oh, God, that we pray that, oh, God, that you will send him back to us after this conference year is over.
[00:22:51] Oh, God, we ask that you put on Bishop Starnes' heart that, oh, God, that send him back to Seals Creek.
[00:22:57] Seals Creek is where he belongs.
[00:22:59] And we will be anticipating and waiting that he will return to us.
[00:23:04] We thank you for all that he does.
[00:23:07] We thank you for everybody who's here this morning.
[00:23:10] continue to bless us in Jesus name we pray amen amen amen amen oh lord now I can journey on

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[00:23:31] make it through another day yes lord oh lord yes took all of my strength away I can journey on Another day for the strength I had is all gone, but you, precious of yesterday, will always go.
[00:25:15] Lose our strength, amen.

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[00:25:41] Sometimes we done used up what we had yesterday, amen.
[00:25:45] Really what physical sleep is about, to restore the body, to finish the body, amen.

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[00:25:50] Let us stand for the affirmation of faith, amen.
[00:25:55] Someone would ask you, what do you believe?

[00:25:58] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:25:58] I believe in God the Father Almighty the maker of heaven and earth and in Jesus Christ the only Son of our Lord who was conceived by the Holy Ghost born of the Virgin Mary suffered on the Pontius Pilate
[00:26:10] was crucified dead and buried the third day he rose from the dead he is seated in the heaven and sitteth on the right hand of God the Father Almighty from then shall come the church
[00:26:21] the quick and the dead I believe in the Holy Ghost

[00:26:24] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:26:24] the Holy Catholic Church the communion of saints the forgiveness of sins the resurrection of the body and life everlasting amen and notice it said resurrection of the body amen all right we'll leave that where it is today all right we're

[00:26:41] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:26:41] gonna give you another selection and i'll be back you brought me and dismiss in and everything unlike you bring me in a complete auction and utterance of your spirit so that the word that comes from my mouth will be ordained by you speak lord then consecrate our hearts and minds
[00:33:47] so we will receive it and apply it to our daily lives.
[00:33:50] It's in the marvelous, masterless, and glorious name of Jesus the Christ we pray.
[00:33:54] Amen.
[00:33:56] Let's give God some praise for the choir.
[00:33:57] Amen.
[00:33:58] Our great musicians, our audio tech team.
[00:34:01] Amen.
[00:34:02] Our ushers, those in the kitchen committee.
[00:34:05] Amen.
[00:34:06] And all of God's children who are assembled this morning, it's good to see you this morning.
[00:34:10] Amen.
[00:34:12] I'd rather be in the house of the Lord than the finest cemetery in the world.

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[00:34:16] Amen.

[00:34:17] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:34:17] I would rather be in the house of the Lord than to find this mortuary in the world.
[00:34:23] Amen.
[00:34:23] In fact, my wife and I were privileged yesterday.
[00:34:26] I have a daughter who is co-owner of a funeral home.
[00:34:31] And so we were able to renovate the building.
[00:34:35] And the building is marvelous, really.
[00:34:38] But I would rather be here than to be there.
[00:34:41] It's a great building now.
[00:34:43] Amen.
[00:34:43] Somebody, nice furniture, a whole nine yards.
[00:34:46] It's high tech.
[00:34:48] But guess what? I would rather be in the house of the Lord than the finest mortuary in the world.
[00:34:55] I'd rather be in the house of God rather than be in a gold casket.
[00:35:00] Amen, somebody? Amen. I'm just speaking for me now.
[00:35:03] I don't know what your preference is. Amen.
[00:35:07] Anyway, we're going to go right on ahead into the message this morning.
[00:35:11] I hope I didn't leave anything out. I will say briefly, what a wonderful vacation.
[00:35:14] really enjoyed a little down time and i appreciate that he's trying to catch me in the moment in my context i got to do it have a picture sent somewhere and they want to catch me in my context
[00:35:25] amen so anyway so we're dealing with the theme a wilderness experience and we say i do a lot of things because we're taught that it's take repetition they say it's a mother of learning

[00:35:39] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[00:35:39] and we have to hear it over and over again.
[00:35:43] In fact, they say it takes, on average, seven times before we really grasp something.

[00:35:50] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[00:35:50] They say that I think we only retain, I believe, about 10% of what we hear.
[00:35:58] Y'all not praying with me.
[00:36:00] They mean that 90% of what they say, we don't even remember.
[00:36:05] Amen, somebody.
[00:36:06] and so that's why it takes a lot of time saying the same thing over and over again but in different ways that we may get the point amen no point in passing a student on to the second
[00:36:21] grade if they haven't learned anything in the first grade amen they didn't learn the ABC how they gonna write a sentence how they gonna make a word and write something about it so you gotta learn the basics first you can't do
[00:36:35] multiplication if you don't know how to add and subtract.
[00:36:39] Amen, somebody. So you got to learn the basics first.
[00:36:43] Now, that'll preach all by itself.
[00:36:45] Okay, anyway, we're going to move right ahead.
[00:36:47] So, the septic, then again, is designed, I'm sorry, disciplined, designed for our delight.
[00:36:55] Normally, when we think about discipline, we think about it as something negative.
[00:37:03] Come on, y'all, can we just talk this morning? Pastor, you say amen the faster I can move to the next point and the faster you can go downstairs and eat the chicken okay all right okay but uh normally we think about it something negative but God looks at it
[00:37:21] in another way and likewise our parents when we were growing up as a child we look at discipline in a negative light come on somebody huh none of us wanted to be disciplined but now that we are
[00:37:36] older and we see the way we were headed that without the discipline, Lord knows what would have happened to us.
[00:37:44] So now we're glad that mom and dad spanked our tail when we needed it. Am I right, somebody?
[00:37:52] Come on now, am I right? So we appreciate it now, but we didn't then. Well, likewise, God is saying the same thing though. When I take you through the storms of life, you may not appreciate it right now you're going to look back and say thank you jesus that you took me
[00:38:11] through that and that's why i said as a pastor i don't pastor for you to say necessarily amen today i want you to but more so so help me god so later on down the road you can say thank you pastor
[00:38:26] may not appreciate it may not like me and but trust me it's not gonna bother me i'm like teflon if you didn't learn how to let stuff get to you in all these years I've been preaching you'll never learn
[00:38:42] huh so I promise you people like they mad like they're supposed to bother people I don't mean me I'm just saying in general you know like being mad you mad all by yourself I'm enjoying my life
[00:38:53] y'all better hear me I'm saying in general like some people want you to know that they're mad okay be mad it ain't bothering me huh mad does not beget mad on my part and it should beget mad
[00:39:07] on your part, amen?
[00:39:09] See, people can't stand being mad all by themselves.
[00:39:13] Like I saw one lady looking at these children throw temper tantrum in the grocery store or wherever, and he just fell out on the floor kicking, and I was in the grocery store I swear these ladies just kept right on shopping.
[00:39:27] And she didn't even look back at the child.
[00:39:29] Next thing you know, he got her you know, running after his mama but she paid him no attention. You were kick kick by yourself but I got the shot all right let me move on remember I told you the story about
[00:39:41] Lucy on uh Charlie Brown and uh Linus were trying to Lucy were trying to he was trying to talk to Linus when he played the little piano and he was ignoring her basically and she got mad took
[00:39:53] something boom broke his piano he didn't get mad I told you the story before he just went to the closet opened up the closet there was a stack of them he just got another one to kill right on
[00:40:03] playing and let him be mad by himself or herself.
[00:40:07] Alright, but anyway, but now all discipline even at that church is not necessarily that we have done something wrong. Sometimes if we're kind of getting my message, it's to develop us to a level that
[00:40:21] God can take us or develop us more or develop our character so God can take us to the next level.
[00:40:28] Now, let me give you an example.
[00:40:29] How many people in here have been to the military before I gotta be somebody the one okay two I'm sorry I know she ain't been okay two okay what the first thing you do when you
[00:40:40] then when you enroll what do they do they're going to preach this together they're going to take you from once you enlist where do you go and they call it boot camp that's right that's what I'm trying to get
[00:40:57] right there boot camp okay that's cool doctor just take some photos from that okay so boot camp now pride let's say we got knowledge we got understanding but to make a good soldier what they'll say that they must develop something in me that i don't have right now
[00:41:17] am i right somebody likewise most times god's discipline is about forget you from here to over here i got to take you through some stuff he might develop go back to the text let's just read it
[00:41:36] And do it around the first chapter, 8th chapter, verse 1.
[00:41:39] Just read it.
[00:41:40] Now, I'm reading it now from the NIV version.
[00:41:42] Be careful to obey all the commands I am giving you today.
[00:41:47] This is the NILT.
[00:41:49] Okay.
[00:41:50] Then you will live and multiply and will enter and occupy the land the Lord swore to your ancestors.
[00:41:59] So the whole concept of God taking Israel through the wilderness was to take them into the promised land.
[00:42:10] He's not doing it just to punish them because they wouldn't go.
[00:42:23] Come on now, huh?
[00:42:25] This is 40 years later.
[00:42:27] When God first said go, they wouldn't go.
[00:42:31] They didn't go because of the giants in the land.
[00:42:39] And although, now watch this church.
[00:42:41] see spiritually we develop what we call spiritual amnesia in a new york second i'm serious we're developing a new york second that's what we don't understand our human brokenness i don't care what god did yesterday huh i'll forget today y'all know you don't want
[00:43:00] to talk to me now i got an intellectual knowledge of it and even that word no in scripture it's not an intellectual thing i know that's intellectual that's not what god is talking about you see i
[00:43:19] can help you how many times y'all heard me say people have a head faith and they create that to a heart faith and there are two different things everybody got a head faith when everything
[00:43:33] going well you know come on you want to talk back to me this one huh but when things are going bad I lose that and I lack faith Israel knew God had brought them through
[00:43:47] had taken them and parted the Red Sea and put all of those plagues on Egypt and yet when they got down when God said go to the promised land they wouldn't go God had already provided a pillar cloud
[00:43:59] by day and a pillar fire by night come on somebody huh he had already gave them water from a rock already parted the Red Sea they had a head faith not the heart I ain't going to be in the promised land
[00:44:17] and 10 spies so you got to be careful when you listen to church 10 spies brought back what we call a negative, what the bible calls an evil report, they said there are giants in those, they said oh the land
[00:44:33] everything God said, but we can't go, why? there are giants in the land, do you know there are giants that keep us from getting God's promises when giants when I don't see my way and that's what get it when I
[00:44:59] I not what God said I don't see huh and God put it so you don't see it because the other than that I can lie and say I trust God and don't I really trust what I see
[00:45:14] so God right there listen carefully it's in the text God put us in a situation where we cannot get ourselves out right there he in the wilderness huh And why is that?
[00:45:30] He said he caused them to hunger and then fed them with manna.
[00:45:34] Come on, soul.
[00:45:35] In other words, God put them out there in the wilderness where there was no bread, there were no birds, there was nothing.
[00:45:44] They were in a desert land.
[00:45:46] No water.
[00:45:49] And it was to teach them.
[00:45:50] I'm going to give him a point saying right now.
[00:45:51] He was teaching them that you got to obey everything what I say and not what you see.
[00:45:58] That's the difference right there.
[00:46:00] and church that requires Lord's Prayer give us this day our daily bread he don't just think about biscuits and cornbread that's really not what are you talking about the spiritual nourishment that I need for this day
[00:46:17] that's why I watched it with the pray everyday with the study everyday I know I'm right about it I may say it again later this book is designed it's not going against scripture you just say this is how we understand discipline in our church so they just call the book of
[00:46:37] discipline because they know i can never please god never receive the blessings of god without the discipline that i need let me somebody huh so the military y'all thought i had forgotten that didn't you know so the military the first thing they do when you enroll and enlist in the army
[00:46:56] or military they take you to boot camp first to develop something that we don't have huh as a general rule y'all talk back amen be bad talk back is that not right say it loud so so what are they
[00:47:18] trying to teach in boot camp oh what did you say discipline so i i did my little research y'all Y'all tell me if it's right or not.
[00:47:36] They teach you first.
[00:47:37] You got to get up by a certain time.
[00:47:41] Am I right, somebody?
[00:47:43] You got to get up out of the bed at a certain time.
[00:47:48] I think I read on average 5 a.m.
[00:47:51] Is that about 2?
[00:47:52] Y'all talking, huh?
[00:47:53] Am I right, somebody?
[00:47:55] Now, don't tell me I'm a morning person.
[00:47:57] I'm not bothering y'all, all right?
[00:47:59] Well, I'm not a morning person.
[00:48:02] 11 o'clock in the morning.
[00:48:03] I'm not a morning person.
[00:48:05] It's almost noon now.
[00:48:06] Let me get out of the way.
[00:48:07] I've been telling church folk, we used to say, those that start church at 11, but we don't want to be in church all day.
[00:48:13] You didn't start until 11?
[00:48:16] You know, I'm going to leave that stuff alone.
[00:48:18] What I'm trying to say, they try to do it.
[00:48:21] So what does getting up at a certain time have to do with fighting a war?
[00:48:26] What about shining shoes?
[00:48:30] Do your shoes have to be shining?
[00:48:32] What that got to do with fighting a war?
[00:48:35] See, here we go.
[00:48:36] I don't see what this has to do with that.
[00:48:38] remember I said we get in trouble when we start thinking rather than being obedient I know I'm right about it I don't mean don't think at all old people say use your head for something more than a hat rack
[00:48:56] y'all heard that before right you know yeah so you got a mind for a reason but what I'm saying is for things that we have been called to do what God wants us to do is do it
[00:49:08] and so if the world and the army understands that that you and then what does breaking up in bed a certain way got to do with anything am i right somebody can your bed be all wrinkled up because they're teaching you
[00:49:28] and everything do it right i'll tell you and say well it's got to do with fighting the war because i'm not slacking up in another area i may not see the necessity and i think this is all
[00:49:48] Right. And I could cause chaos. I love the movie.
[00:49:54] A few good men, Tom Cruise and Jack Nicholson and Jack Nicholson.
[00:50:05] What is it? A colonel who? Oh, yeah, I didn't watch the movie. All right.
[00:50:11] OK, but there's a point in the movie. He has his son, but they were court ordering him, the colonel.
[00:50:19] he was in court court martial and he asked him a question son have you ever placed your life in another man's hands and asked him to place his in yours what I'm saying is if
[00:50:37] we don't do what we're supposed to do we could call a whole unit to be wiped out is that right brother huh they have a reason for why they have those things in place come on y'all talk back huh
[00:50:50] but likewise this is what God is trying to tell Israel see they didn't go they didn't go into the promised land at first they said there are giants in the land only Joshua and Caleb
[00:51:04] said we can take those chunks and the people wept and cried all night and ran into stone why did you bring us out here to die were there not graves in Egypt so they left
[00:51:19] Egypt to go to the promised land, but died in the wilderness and never got there.
[00:51:27] Because only those 20 years and up shall go.
[00:51:32] But the rest of y'all, you're going to wander in the wilderness for 40 years.
[00:51:36] Huh?
[00:51:37] And then when they all had died out, but Joshua and Caleb, because they're the only two that had faith in God, God said that every last one of the rest of them from that age up shall die.
[00:51:49] And when they die, then I'll take them over but God was training up the younger generation that you got to obey my word so he put them in all kinds of situations just to show them that only
[00:52:03] my word matters to teach them that man does not live by bread alone but by every word that come out of the mouth of God that's all God trying to tell everybody what did my word
[00:52:16] say did you do it and start worrying about other stuff that's why you hear me say that people scare me. I know what they're trying to say, but let me play the devil's advocate.
[00:52:27] You get away from me. Huh? What you mean? You're trying to say the devil can influence, got a power to do something. Devil don't have nothing to do.
[00:52:36] He has no power. Huh? And so, let me just wrap this up.
[00:52:43] So, the Lord said now, in the NIV verse, know then in your heart. Now, know it's based on experience and a relationship with God. You hear me good now? Yeah, you got an intellect, of course, but it's
[00:53:01] not based on what I can see and what I can add up at all. Dealing with God, numbers don't add up.
[00:53:10] Oh, that'll preach by itself.
[00:53:12] Somebody text me and say numbers don't add up.
[00:53:16] We went over these examples.
[00:53:18] Remember the story about Gideon?
[00:53:20] The Midianites had 132,000 and Israel only had 22,000 and God told 32,000 at first 32,000 yeah and God told Israel no I'm sorry the Midianites had 120,000 Israel had 32,000 and the Lord told Gideon
[00:53:39] you got too many but they already outnumbered you based on our math huh y'all know the story George in the 7th chapter we talked about that story before and so then the Lord said everybody
[00:53:52] said Joshua I mean Gideon everybody too are afraid to fight, send them home. So ask them who's afraid to fight. 22,000 left. 10,000 left now. So now they're outnumbered 12 to 1 still.
[00:54:07] And the Lord had the audacity to tell Gideon, you still got too many.
[00:54:12] I cannot, watch what God said, I cannot deliver Israel in your hand lest you should think you did it. That's why God does what he does.
[00:54:25] so I'll know that it was the hand of the Lord what was the song y'all were singing earlier the first one I made it through how do we make it through how do we make it through
[00:54:46] the only thing I can say is God help me y'all please I made it through by the hand of God and that's all God is trying to tell us you're going to make it through by my hand
[00:55:01] only my hand because remember I could I ask the question how many of us woke ourselves up this morning huh God woke us up none of us woke ourselves up right so why did God wake us up because he has a purpose for our lives
[00:55:18] see all of it is about what God's relationship with us he's just trying to tell us that you're going to find later on in Deuteronomy day chapter the Lord said when you eat and are satisfied praise
[00:55:30] the Lord unless you should think by my own hands I have produced this wealth see pride is a monster and we don't want to talk about pride in the church but you got to understand
[00:55:43] pride was Satan's problem and he injected the same poison in our mind that's why nobody like to admit that they're wrong about anything I know him right now I know him right now my pastor
[00:56:00] growing up said we would rather argue all day than to just say I was wrong or to apologize we gonna wiggle our way out of that some kind of way to keep them saying I was wrong
[00:56:14] pride amen somebody very few people gonna admit they don't know something they gonna wiggle their way out pride because I think that's who I am rather than acknowledge the old saying father I scratch my hands
[00:56:33] to thee no other help I know if thou would draw thyself from me where shall i go it's all about with the lord at work in our lives and that's what this text is about but god got to discipline us and he don't mean whooping us he got to take us through some
[00:56:54] stuff to develop character in us see look if we don't without the character i mean the character that got all over everybody got character to a certain degree i'm not talking about worldly character i mean the character that god in other words it may take a certain level of
[00:57:11] Let me just use it for me and you for that example.
[00:57:15] So it may take a certain level of character for me to pass to a thousand people than a hundred people.
[00:57:23] And likewise, you as a church to have a thousand members versus a hundred members.
[00:57:29] It may take more character.
[00:57:34] Well, a ten thousand members.
[00:57:37] You see what I'm trying to say?
[00:57:38] Then it may take for a thousand members.
[00:57:40] so I have to let God take me through some stuff that he might develop that character that he wants to develop in me so I would do what he direct me to do that's really what he's trying to say
[00:57:53] we criticize Jim Baker but here's what Jim Baker said in the testimony that when it got to be so large he got so busy, listen church doing the stuff to operate the ministry day to
[00:58:09] day that he forgot to do what got him there oh help me somebody huh that's what god trying to tell some of us if i give you the stuff and you don't have the discipline you will forget
[00:58:25] thought by god i don't mean intellectually he mean in practice he's no longer my priority but i gotta tend to my stuff amen somebody as a people where were we going on sunday but the
[00:58:44] church you weren't going golfing y'all come here y'all want to talk to him huh no i'm serious what what are we going to do that was out the church now we can go everywhere get the church i got
[00:59:02] stuff to do um no business open no restaurants open growing up years years ago y'all remember that huh well now we got to go out to eat come on y'all but hear what i'm saying it's funny but
[00:59:19] There is some truth to this, church.
[00:59:21] We want to rush through it because we got other stuff to do.
[00:59:25] Come on now, huh?
[00:59:26] Amen, somebody.
[00:59:28] But growing up, we didn't have nothing to do but the Lord's house.
[00:59:32] Church may go to 230.
[00:59:33] Everybody still happy.
[00:59:36] Y'all just happy since my other folks other than your own folks.
[00:59:40] Amen, somebody.
[00:59:42] But now we can do other stuff.
[00:59:44] I'm wrapping this up.
[00:59:46] But God is saying a lot in this text.
[00:59:49] I'm going to discipline you, Israel.
[00:59:50] so the military again takes us through these experiences that they may develop character and discipline in us to do what needs to be done when it needs to be done how it needs to be done
[01:00:03] and do your job and then part of that read is that mental toughness huh so you don't get mad and quit when you don't like what's going on y'all better talk back to her amen because
[01:00:16] okay Lord I'm getting so much trouble I agree we shouldn't experience certain things, but let me tell you something.
[01:00:24] I just got to say, I'm trying to teach it publicly.
[01:00:28] How are you going to avoid what folks call church hurts?
[01:00:33] I ask the question sometimes when people make the point, how many have been hurt in church?
[01:00:38] Almost all hands go up.
[01:00:39] How many have hurt somebody else in church?
[01:00:41] No hands go up.
[01:00:45] Now, how can people experience church hurt, but nobody doing the hurting?
[01:00:51] Everybody's been hurt, but nobody doing the hurting.
[01:00:56] Can we be real in this church?
[01:00:58] I bring imperfection.
[01:01:00] You bring imperfection.
[01:01:01] And sometimes I may get on your nerve.
[01:01:04] And sometimes you pass it to deal with it.
[01:01:15] Like the story about the mother telling her son, her son said, Mom, I'm not going to church today.
[01:01:21] And she said, Why?
[01:01:22] Give me three reasons why you're not going to church today.
[01:01:26] One, I'm tired.
[01:01:29] Now I'm sorry, the mother, now the son said, brother mama give me three reasons why i should go to church she's the one you were raised in the church number two you promised the lord that you would go to church and number three you're the
[01:01:43] papster what i'm saying is church read the scripture carefully everybody in the church bring some imperfection i gotta tolerate your mess like you gotta tolerate my mess and i say to folks sometimes listen to this church now i'm not saying we should be reckless
[01:02:09] and careless sometimes we just got a bad day come on y'all you talk about huh you ever got to go home and snap at your husband or wife or the children or even the dog walk in the house and kick the dog for no reason dog trying to greet you
[01:02:26] and say rawr rawr rawr rawr get out of my way huh leave the dog alone what I'm saying is when we have we are all righteous we should love holy and upright all the time
[01:02:43] one day your pastor may have a bad day how you gonna react you know what I normally say to people how is it y'all expect me to adjust to whatever number of members let's say 60 different
[01:02:58] personalities but you got a problem with my one

[01:03:01] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_04]
[01:03:01] y'all won't talk to me

[01:03:05] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_10]
[01:03:05] you won't talk to me people don't think about it like that now honestly everybody's attitude but pastors adjust to where they are okay fine that's just the way I am okay let me leave that alone
[01:03:19] but what I'm saying church they do it for teamwork it's a lot of things that goes with why that they will take us through this boot camp to develop us that's what I promise you that's what
[01:03:30] our church is saying every born again believer need to go through boot camp so they can develop mental toughness how to obey and character to do what they ought to do.
[01:03:49] That's my assignment and that's your assignment. But let me close out. So what God want to bless, take us to discipline for our delight. The whole purpose is to bless us.
[01:04:01] The whole purpose is to take hold of that which God has promised us. God want us to be blessed.
[01:04:09] God want us to be healed and delivered. God want the church to have an abundance.
[01:04:15] He want that.
[01:04:16] jesus died for it that's his will that's his intent and that's what he said that you may take hold bottom line what's another passage of what the lord paul what paul said like i take
[01:04:33] hold of christ huh that i take hold of that for which christ took hold of me god want to bless the church you want to bless everybody in here but am i going to allow him to discipline me
[01:04:49] And that doesn't mean I necessarily did something wrong.
[01:04:52] That means it gets me to the point.
[01:04:54] Like you go to the military, you don't go in there and listen.
[01:04:56] They start accusing you of stuff, do they?
[01:04:58] Huh?
[01:04:59] But yet they want to develop the character.
[01:05:01] See what I'm trying to say, church?
[01:05:03] I promise you that's the same thing that happens in the church.
[01:05:06] Because we can't make people go.
[01:05:08] Some people never enroll in a boot camp.
[01:05:10] So they never learn the discipline they need to learn spiritually.
[01:05:15] I don't mean to say intellectually.
[01:05:17] Intellect is one thing.
[01:05:19] but to have the spiritual fortitude and our hearts and our minds to do what we should do, how we should do it, when we should do it, where we should do it, and the people
[01:05:29] we should do it for.
[01:05:31] Because sometimes, let's be real, we'll help some people, but some people we don't help.
[01:05:37] Because I don't like what they did speak to me last Sunday.
[01:05:43] I remember when I asked them to do a favor for me and they said no.
[01:05:48] So let them see how I felt.
[01:05:53] Come on, y'all.
[01:05:54] Come talk back.
[01:05:55] You know I'm right.
[01:05:56] Am I right?
[01:05:57] And God is saying, no, okay.
[01:06:01] They're going to miss out on their blessing.
[01:06:03] Why miss out on yours?
[01:06:05] Why should I miss out on mine because of their attitude?
[01:06:09] I'm serious about it.
[01:06:10] Why?
[01:06:13] See, it doesn't make sense.
[01:06:16] So I'd rather miss out on mine to see them get blessed.
[01:06:21] All right, we're going to close it out right there.
[01:06:22] But that's what it's all about.
[01:06:24] So it really is not.
[01:06:25] That's why the Lord said, for your own good.
[01:06:27] At least let me read this quote, because you'll understand it.
[01:06:31] It's in my notes.
[01:06:35] But it's one that I love and I use all the time.
[01:06:38] It says, nothing left loose ever does anything creative.
[01:06:43] Write this.
[01:06:44] No steam can turn a turbine, that's how you get electrical power, unless it is funneled.
[01:06:50] It has to be captured and directed at a certain place.
[01:06:54] It just can't roam freely.
[01:06:55] no Niagara can turn water into light unless it is channeled and then it says no life is productive unless it is disciplined and sometimes church sometimes you say oh my god when we talk about discipline
[01:07:13] we didn't raise our children we didn't discipline them amen I'm not talking about putting the belt now we didn't teach them that you can't say yes you can't get everything that you want without some work
[01:07:24] I want doesn't make it because sometimes that's how people think they think their job is to say I want and you provide I don't know about all this stuff I'm not saying don't buy your kids no car
[01:07:35] when they graduate but sometimes in fact there's one lady she wouldn't even accept a car her mother bought her a car but it wasn't what she wanted and she said no she didn't want it
[01:07:45] now I would have been glad to have a bicycle we didn't have too many of us we didn't have our own bike we had two and one was for my little sister and little brother
[01:07:59] So I couldn't ride that one. So we had one for about five of us to share How often you think I got to ride it?
[01:08:07] No, I'm the guy should it's not turn the bikes. She turned the car down It may have been if she bought her a Tesla, but she wanted a Mercedes. It could have been something like that
[01:08:19] I'm very sure I'm not joking Huh? She said no, I don't want it. This is not what I asked for. Why could you get me this?
[01:08:28] That's what she telling her parents. Oh Ooh, Jesus.
[01:08:34] I wish I could have been her parents in the old days.
[01:08:39] How many of y'all know you already be with Jesus right now?
[01:08:44] As you're acting that way.
[01:08:45] I'm through, really, huh?
[01:08:46] How many of y'all know that?
[01:08:47] Can we tell the truth, y'all, huh?
[01:08:48] You already be with the Lord.
[01:08:51] You already be with your maker.
[01:08:56] You don't have to wait till Jesus come back.
[01:08:58] You already gone.
[01:09:00] All right, we're going to close it out right there.
[01:09:01] We're going to close it out.
[01:09:01] That's it.
[01:09:02] Now, I'm just saying, you know, it's learning.
[01:09:07] You got something you got to work for.
[01:09:09] You got to teach them the right way.
[01:09:12] And God knows, I said, we as a people have longed to art or raising our children.
[01:09:17] Amen.
[01:09:17] We just give it.
[01:09:19] I'm going to give them everything they want.
[01:09:20] No, you got to work.
[01:09:23] Because, see, they didn't get in the world thinking they could work or give it to them, too.
[01:09:27] No, we're going to give you jack.
[01:09:29] You better work for it.
[01:09:30] Amen.
[01:09:30] somebody. All right, that's it. Invitation is extended to receive Jesus as your Lord and your Savior. Christ wants to come in every heart and every mind. Amen.
[01:09:42] The stuff he will take us through is not pleasant, but here's what he is saying. I got you.
[01:09:49] Huh? Whatever I take you through, I have already I'm right there with you and I've already provided what you need, but you will get it when you need it.
[01:09:59] Not necessarily before time.
[01:10:01] All right, choir shall sing.

[01:10:03] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[01:10:03] In the name of Christ, we dedicate your lives.
[01:10:37] We unite with this church fellowship.
[01:10:39] And let us bring our gifts, tithes, and offerings.
[01:11:25] We have gifts we have for the Lord.

[01:11:46] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[01:11:46] All things come with thee, O Lord.

[01:12:33] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[01:12:33] And the announcements of Dr. Pope.

[01:13:24] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[01:13:24] Good morning, church.
[01:13:24] Good morning.
[01:13:26] As we know, today we will be celebrating, honoring, appreciating, however you would like to say it.
[01:13:34] We'll be appreciating our ministerial staff immediately following service.
[01:13:40] All members are asked to donate $100.
[01:13:44] You can just put it in your envelope, put it in your cash app, and just label it appreciation so that those monies can be allocated correctly.
[01:13:55] The scholarship committee will be recognizing all high school graduates the second Sunday in June.
[01:14:01] If you would like to donate to that particular cause to help support those graduates, please put your monies in your envelope or, again, your Cash Outman label at scholarship so that those can be allocated.
[01:14:19] This week is annual conference.
[01:14:23] It starts on the 3rd, that is Wednesday, and it goes through Saturday, so I will be in attendance to that all week um of course with that being said since conference starts on wednesday there will not be any bible study this week um because pastor will not be available we will be
[01:14:47] in conference so just remember there is no bible study this week um i believe that is all if If anything comes up throughout the week or anything changes, please watch your email.
[01:15:05] I will send messages so that we are all staying informed of all things going on this week.

[01:15:12] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_07]
[01:15:12] I stand before you this time as men's ministry president.
[01:15:28] You know, I put the flyer out there early on, let everybody know about this June, Lord, I'm going to say Juneteenth.
[01:15:33] That's what I'm lying to.
[01:15:34] But the Men's Ministry, Booster's Ministry, Port-A-Pet.
[01:15:40] I've got the tickets.
[01:15:42] Now, this is what I'm asking.
[01:15:44] I've said, I've asked before for everyone to eat that day, feed your family that day by Port-A-Pet.
[01:15:54] Now, I want you to get the tickets.
[01:15:58] I want you to, they're $14.
[01:16:00] It was June the 27th.
[01:16:02] 27th. So I'm saying this to you, sometimes during this month, if you can, because we always get rid of the tickets. We sell the tickets. But what I'm willing to do, it's going to be at New Hope, June the 27th. New Hope, June the 27th. I'm trying to make it
[01:16:22] feasible for everyone to be able to get a Portapit meal. But I know New Hope is a little further so I'm contemplating if you buy your ticket and I may meet you I may get the plate instead
[01:16:38] of you going all the way to New Hope for those that don't live in this area. I may bring your food here so let me know during this month again that's June 27th. The money is due by
[01:16:51] June the 27th so please consider help Sears Creek Church move these tickets. It's for a fee. It's good food.
[01:17:01] And I'm willing to come here, but let me know, because if you live in Salisbury, you may get there.
[01:17:08] For the ones that don't get, the ones that don't go to New Hope, the ones that go to Salisbury, they say, well, Jeff, I get far if you meet me at the church.
[01:17:16] I'm willing to do that, but let me know.
[01:17:19] Please, help us move these tickets.
[01:17:21] The other thing they say, we've got to provide some things.
[01:17:24] Now, you know, it used to be we had some cake bakers in the house.
[01:17:27] Hey, Pastor, we used to have cake bakers in the house.
[01:17:29] Oh, really?
[01:17:30] Now, them cake bakers don't do it no more.
[01:17:33] So we got to supply two cakes and some beans, and we'll take care of that.
[01:17:39] So I'm asking the cake bakers, you don't have to try to bake a cake, just buy a couple of tickets.
[01:17:44] Where'd you get?

[01:17:49] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_01]
[01:17:49] Hello, everybody.
[01:17:52] So I'm going to be honest, y'all going to hear my voice every Sunday.
[01:17:56] We're on the countdown for Juneteenth.
[01:17:58] So if you are in town this year in Kannapolis, we'll be celebrating for a third year on Friday.
[01:18:05] we actually always celebrate on the actual holiday we'll be in veterans park um from three i'm gonna say three to eleven we have things lined up three to nine we'll be in veterans park and then we have some other things lined up for those who will be joining us but i hope
[01:18:20] to see you all um also some of you all may recall the video that we made our first year in 2024 so My plan is, when we get our pastor back, manifestation.
[01:18:34] You all will have an opportunity to see that as well, Pastor and First Lady.
[01:18:38] But I do hope to see you all there.
[01:18:40] I am the chairperson.
[01:18:42] Every year has been successful, but last year was beyond my imagination.
[01:18:47] And we do plan on having a good time and learning about the holiday as well as just celebrating and fellowshipping with one another.

[01:18:56] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_09]
[01:18:56] Amen.

[01:19:03] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_06]
[01:19:03] Good morning, church.
[01:19:03] Good morning.
[01:19:04] So, as you all know, it is Pastor Appreciation, First Lady, Sister Kelly.
[01:19:10] So, on behalf of the Pastoral Appreciation Committee, we wanted to give you your flowers while you're here.
[01:19:20] You know, they always say that to make sure you give your flowers while they're here.
[01:19:24] So, we would like to give a small token.
[01:19:26] If the members of the Pastoral Appreciation Committee please stand, and there's some downstairs.
[01:19:35] so we wanted to give a little token for you um saying we love you and appreciate you so sister kelly is first amen and if miss first lady would come please that's it now this one is going to be
[01:20:29] pinned down but we're going to wait till you get out of your robe so you won't mess it up yes so it will be on you when we go downstairs.
[01:20:37] Right, okay.
[01:20:38] No one wants to pin me and I won't stick it.

[01:20:40] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[01:20:40] Right, okay.
[01:20:42] Okay, thank you.

[01:20:46] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_03]
[01:20:46] Thank you.

[01:20:47] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_00]
[01:20:47] This is all for our announcement.

[01:20:58] [SPEAKER SPEAKER_08]
[01:20:58] All right, let's thank God for his gifts.
[01:21:04] We appreciate everything.
[01:21:06] We take nothing for granted.
[01:21:07] Let me thank God for you all.
[01:21:09] This is the close as far as a Sunday for conference year 2025-2026.
[01:21:17] and next week we'll begin a new conference here 26-27 and so again we're pleased to be here but I you know let me throw something quick at you all so in my line of work
[01:21:32] you know I meet a lot of pastors and people and I even had pastors to tell their story when God sent them to a church and the church was on a serious state of decline and the church came back
[01:21:45] and there's some things that are common I'm just going to lift up one.
[01:21:49] The first one always was with the attitude of the pastor.
[01:21:54] Though sometimes I might need to cut the feed because I don't want to be in no trouble with anybody.
[01:22:00] Let me get the benediction in and I'm going to say that.
[01:22:03] Now unto him who is able to keep you from falling and to present you faultless before the presence of his glory with exceeding joy.
[01:22:10] To the only wise God, our Savior, the glory and majesty, dominion and power now and forever.
[01:22:16] Let us say.